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Ep 37 | Back Down To Earth

April 27, 2022

Joining Charlie in this episode are two extremely accomplished and confident individuals with resumes that have taken them on adventures into the mountains and wilderness of our planet and bold, scientific walks outside the space shuttle.  

John Herrington is a retired Naval Test Pilot and NASA Astronaut who was the 143rd person to walk in space and the first Native American in history to do so.  He recently worked on an IMAX film entitled “Into America’s Wild” by MacGillivray Freeman, released in 2020.    

Returning guest, Sue Purvis, is a wilderness medicine and avalanche instructor, author of the book ‘Go Find,’ and owns Crested Butte Outdoors International in Montana.  They met on one of her mountain courses, and the universe saw fit to bring these two extraordinary humans and leaders together.    

This fascinating and wide-ranging conversation explores what drives us to solve problems for ourselves, to build or fix things with our own hands, and how to balance the enjoyment with the wellness needs of being.  

They discuss leadership, confidence, and the people who’ve inspired them along the way. They share stories of the people John and Sue have inspired with their work and examples.   In one particularly powerful part of the conversation, they reflect on our need to focus internally on ourselves and not just on constant external distractions. They draw parallels to humanity’s dream of finding new habitats in space while we can barely take care of the world we already have.  

“Success is a feeling of satisfaction for having done a good job.” 

John Herrington

“You have to be whole to move greatness forward.” 

Sue Purvis